Legislature(2015 - 2016)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/09/2015 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:31:42 PM Start
01:33:03 PM HB72 || HB73
01:33:06 PM Fy 16 Budget Overview: Department of Transportation and Public Facilities
02:33:59 PM Fy 16 Budget Overview: Department of Corrections
03:30:29 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 72 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 73 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overviews: TELECONFERENCED
- FY16 Dept. of Environmental Conservation
-- Above Item Rescheduled to 2/2/15 --
- FY16 Dept. of Corrections
- FY16 Dept. of Transportation & Public
Facilities
-- Above Item Rescheduled from 2/2/15 --
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      February 9, 2015                                                                                          
                         1:31 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 1:31 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Steve Thompson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Dan Saddler, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mark Luiken,  Commissioner, Department of  Transportation and                                                                   
Public  Facilities;   Mary  Siroky,  Director,   Division  of                                                                   
Administrative  Services,  Department of  Transportation  and                                                                   
Public Facilities;  Ron Taylor,  Commissioner, Department  of                                                                   
Corrections;    Remond   Henderson,   Deputy    Commissioner,                                                                   
Department of Corrections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 72     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 72 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 73     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 73 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEWS:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                    
          DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 72                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                   
     loan  program  expenses  of  state  government  and  for                                                                   
     certain    programs,    capitalizing    funds,    making                                                                   
     reappropriations,  and making appropriations  under art.                                                                   
     IX,  sec. 17(c), Constitution  of  the State of  Alaska,                                                                   
     from  the   constitutional  budget  reserve   fund;  and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 73                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                   
     capital    expenses    of   the    state's    integrated                                                                   
     comprehensive mental  health program; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^FY  16 BUDGET  OVERVIEW:  DEPARTMENT OF  TRANSPORTATION  AND                                                                 
PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:33:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK LUIKEN,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  TRANSPORTATION AND                                                                   
PUBLIC   FACILITIES,   (DOT/PF)  discussed   the   PowerPoint                                                                   
presentation,  "Alaska   Department  of  Transportation   and                                                                   
Public   Facilities,  FY   16   Governor's  Endorsed   Budget                                                                   
Overview" (copy on file).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman asked  that the  presentation highlight  the                                                                   
major projects.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken looked  at  slide 2,  "Mission and  Core                                                                   
Services":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     "Keep    Alaska     Moving    through     service    and                                                                   
     infrastructure."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Core Services:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          Design, engineer, and manage construction of                                                                          
          transportation infrastructure and facilities                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Maintenance    and   operations   of    the   state                                                                   
          transportation systems                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Measurement      standards/commercial       vehicle                                                                   
          enforcement                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken explained slide 3, "Priorities":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Live within our means                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Take care of what we have                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Operate and maintain safe and reliable roads, airports,                                                                    
     ferries and facilities                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Ensure Alaska has the transportation infrastructure                                                                        
     necessary to grow the economy                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Develop and implement efficiencies in both the                                                                             
     operating and capital budgets                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken looked at slide 4, "Statutory                                                                               
Requirements":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • AS 44.42 Department of Transportation and Public                                                                         
     Facilities                                                                                                                 
     • AS 44.68.010 Use of State-owned Vehicles                                                                                 
     • AS 44.68.210 Highway Equipment Working Capital Fund                                                                      
     • AS 35 Public Buildings, Works, and Improvements                                                                          
     • AS 19 Highways and Ferries                                                                                               
     • AS 19.10 State Highway System                                                                                            
     • AS 19.10.300 Commercial Motor Vehicle Requirements                                                                       
     • AS 19.25 Utilities, Advertising, Encroachment and                                                                        
     Memorials                                                                                                                  
     • AS 19.65 Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                                    
     • AS 19.65.050 Alaska Marine Highway System Fund and                                                                       
     Budget                                                                                                                     
     • AS 19.75 Knik Arm Bridge and Toll Authority                                                                              
     • AS 2 Aeronautics                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken highlighted slide 5, "DOT/PF Assets":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • 3,180 full time positions                                                                                                
     • 5,619 center line miles of roads/highways                                                                                
     • 79 Maintenance Stations                                                                                                  
     • 249 State Airports                                                                                                       
     • 2 International Airports                                                                                                 
     • 720 Facilities (4 million + sq. ft.)                                                                                     
     • 11 Ferries                                                                                                               
     • 35 Ferry Terminals                                                                                                       
     • 22 Harbors                                                                                                               
     • 810 State Owned Bridges                                                                                                  
     • 7 Weigh Stations                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman queried the cost  per mile of the maintenance                                                                   
the assets. He  also wondered the total miles  that the ferry                                                                   
system  and airport  operate. Commissioner  Luiken agreed  to                                                                   
provide that information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken looked  at slide  6, "Organization."  He                                                                   
stated that  there would be a  slide that showed  that DOT/PF                                                                   
was   a  matrixed   organization   with  multiple   statewide                                                                   
functions.   The   department    covered   measurements   and                                                                   
standards; program  development of  the long range  strategic                                                                   
plans;  administration;  state   equipment  fleet;  statewide                                                                   
engineering; facilities;  statewide aviation; and  the marine                                                                   
highway system.  He stated that  the department  served three                                                                   
regions: northern, central, and south coastal.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken highlighted  slide 7, "DOT/PF  Structure                                                                   
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner's Office - Marc Luiken, Commissioner                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          • 20 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •   .6  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016   Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $3,522.6 (all sources)                                                                                              
          •  Department   leadership,  contracting   appeals,                                                                   
          transportation and management security                                                                                
          •  Challenges  - Reducing  department  costs  while                                                                   
          meeting   Alaskan's   needs   for   safe   reliable                                                                   
          transportation,  Moving  Ahead  for  Progress  21st                                                                   
          Century (MAP21), federal oversight                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Administrative Services Division -Mary Siroky, Director                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          • 95 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          •  2.7   percent  of  DOTandPF's   FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          • $16,894.2 (all sources)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          •  Finance, budget,  human resources,  procurement,                                                                   
          internal   review,  equal   employment  and   civil                                                                   
          rights, building management                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          •   Challenges      implementation   of   the   new                                                                   
          accounting system; and  increased federal financial                                                                   
          reporting requirements                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken looked at slide 8, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                        
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Program Development - Jeff Ottesen, Director                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          • 34 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •   .7  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016   Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $4,630.0 (all sources)                                                                                              
          •  Statewide  Transportation   Improvement  Program                                                                   
          (STIP), federalaid  highway agreements,  long range                                                                   
          plan    transportation   plan,   capital    budget,                                                                   
          Strategic  Highway   Safety  Plan,  Alaska  Highway                                                                   
          Safety Office, community transit program                                                                              
          •  Challenges  - increased  federal  oversight  and                                                                   
          requirements   (Transportation  Asset   Management,                                                                   
          Performance  Measures), shifting  of federal  funds                                                                   
          serving  local roads and  lesser highways  to major                                                                   
          highways (National Highway System)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Information Systems and Services Division - Bill Anker,                                                                    
     Director                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          • 70 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •  1.6  percent of  DOT  and PF's  FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $9,899.8 (all sources)                                                                                              
          •  System  oversight,  network  support,  security,                                                                   
          application  development   and  management,  client                                                                   
          support     services,    server    and     database                                                                   
          administration,  enterprise geospatial  data system                                                                   
          maintenance and reporting                                                                                             
          •  Challengesimplementation   and   maintenance  of                                                                   
          secure   and   reliable   systems   that   maximize                                                                   
          performance;  consolidating  disparate  systems  to                                                                   
          minimize cost                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken highlighted slide 9, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                      
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Design and Engineering Services - Roger                                                                          
     Healy, Chief Engineer                                                                                                      
          • 78 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                             
          •   2.2  percent   of   DOT/PF's  FY2016   Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $13,818.7 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          •  Major  division   responsibilities  are:  bridge                                                                   
          design,  design and  construction standards,  asset                                                                   
          management,   materials   and  quality   assurance,                                                                   
          National  Environmental  Policy Act  (NEPA)  review                                                                   
          and approval                                                                                                          
          •  Challenges -  implementing  changes required  by                                                                   
          MAP21,  assuming  federal  responsibility for  NEPA                                                                   
          decisions,    transitioning   department    to   an                                                                   
          asset/performance  management   agency,  recruiting                                                                   
          and    retaining   technical   staff,    continuous                                                                   
          improvements through streamlining processes                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Public Facilities - David Kemp, Chief                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          • 31 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •   .7  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016   Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $4,642.9 budget request (all sources)                                                                               
          •  Project  management  for  new  construction  and                                                                   
          deferred   maintenance  for   DOTandPF  and   other                                                                   
          departments;  Alaska   Energy  Savings  Performance                                                                   
          Program                                                                                                               
          •  Challenges -  range in complexity  of the  work;                                                                   
          recruitment and retention                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken looked at slide 10, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                       
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Measurement    Standards    and    Commercial    Vehicle                                                                   
     Enforcement - Dan Smith, Director                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          • 61 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •  1.1   percent  of  DOTandPF's   FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $6,611.0 budget request (all sources)                                                                               
          •   Commercial   vehicle    inspections,   oversize                                                                   
          permitting,  weigh stations, weights  and measuring                                                                   
          device certification, metrology lab                                                                                   
          • Challenges - attracting  and retaining commercial                                                                   
          vehicle   inspectors,  generating  permit   changes                                                                   
          after hours, increasing federal regulations                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Equipment Fleet - Diana Rotkis, Fleet Manager                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          • 164 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                            
          •  5.4   percent  of  DOTandPF's   FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $34,040.6 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          • Management  of Highway Working  Capital Equipment                                                                   
          Fund  (HWCF),  credit   card  fuel  process,  fleet                                                                   
          maintenance, parts and  repairs, fleet procurement,                                                                   
          fleet sales                                                                                                           
          •  Challenges    increased  cost of  equipment  and                                                                   
          diagnostics; and training  and attracting a skilled                                                                   
          maintenance workforce in rural Alaska                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken addressed slide 11, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                       
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Aviation - John Binder, Deputy Commissioner                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          • 24 fulltime budgeted positions                                                                                      
          •   .5  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016   Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $3,214.0 budget request (all sources)                                                                               
          •  Aviation  leasing,   planning,  capital  program                                                                   
          management, carrier compliance                                                                                        
          •  Challenges  -  increasing  federal  regulations,                                                                   
          lack  of   geospatial  information  data,  landuse                                                                    
          compliance,    airport    obstructions,    wildlife                                                                   
          management                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AK International Airport System (AIAS)-John Binder,                                                                        
     Exec. Dir. /Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          • 478 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                            
          •  13.3  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $83,402.8 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          •   Composed   of  Ted   Steven's   and   Fairbanks                                                                   
          International Airports                                                                                                
          • Operate the system  office, maintain the runways,                                                                   
          float  ponds,  fields  and  equipment,  manage  the                                                                   
          airside  leases, manage  the airport terminals  and                                                                   
          concessions, airport police and fire department.                                                                      
          •  Challenges -  International  cargo mode  shifts;                                                                   
          competitor  airports,  carrier fleet  mix  changes,                                                                   
          global economy                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken looked at slide 12, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                       
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Marine Highway System  John Falvey, General                                                                         
     Manager                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          • 928 fulltime and parttime budgeted positions                                                                        
          •  25.6  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
         • $160,673.4 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          •  Provides management,  reservation and  marketing                                                                   
          for  the  system,  oversees the  operation  of  the                                                                   
          fleet  and construction  and repair  of 11  vessels                                                                   
          and  35  Terminals.   Operates  3,500  route  miles                                                                   
          serving 35 ports of call                                                                                              
          • Challenges - maintaining  aging vessels requiring                                                                   
          increased  repair  and refurbishment;  adhering  to                                                                   
          yearly published schedules                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    Central Region - Robert Campbell, Regional Director                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          • 600 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                            
          •  17.6  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
         • $110,877.6 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          • Planning;  design and engineering;  construction;                                                                   
          facilities,  highways,   aviation  maintenance  and                                                                   
          operation;  traffic  signal  maintenance;  Whittier                                                                   
          Tunnel; Knik Arm Crossing                                                                                             
          •  Challenges -  disasters,  urban congestion,  the                                                                   
          public's   expectations  particularly   for  winter                                                                   
          maintenance,    recruitment   and    retention   of                                                                   
          equipment operators in rural areas                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken highlighted slide 12, "DOT/PF Structure                                                                     
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Northern Region - Robert Campbell, Acting Regional                                                                         
     Director                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          • 708 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                            
          •  19.9  percent  of   DOTandPF's  FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
         • $124,737.1 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          • Planning;  design and engineering;  construction;                                                                   
          facilities,  highways and aviation  maintenance and                                                                   
          operation; traffic signal maintenance                                                                                 
          •  Challenges  - disasters,  meeting  the  public's                                                                   
          expectations  particularly for winter  maintenance,                                                                   
          recruitment  and retention  of equipment  operators                                                                   
          in rural areas                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Southcoast Region - Vacant Regional, Director                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          • 276 full and parttime budgeted positions                                                                            
          •  8.2   percent  of  DOTandPF's   FY2016  Endorsed                                                                   
          Operating Budget Request                                                                                              
          • $51,292.3 budget request (all sources)                                                                              
          • Planning;  design and engineering;  construction;                                                                   
          facilities,  highways and aviation  maintenance and                                                                   
          operation; traffic signal maintenance                                                                                 
          •  Challenges  - disasters,  meeting  the  public's                                                                   
          expectations  particularly for winter  maintenance,                                                                   
          recruitment  and retention  of equipment  operators                                                                   
          in rural areas                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken discussed slide 14, "Fabric of DOT/PF."                                                                     
He shared that he wanted to ensure that the department was a                                                                    
unified force across the state.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  asked  for an  explanation  of  the  chart.                                                                   
Commissioner  Luiken replied that  the horizontal  lines were                                                                   
the  agencies  that worked  across  the entire  state.  Their                                                                   
input  impacted every  region and  department personnel.  The                                                                   
vertical  lines represented  the various  divisions, so  they                                                                   
were either function or geographically focused.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  surmised  that  everyone  worked  together.                                                                   
Commissioner Luiken agreed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  stated that  the chart showed  that every                                                                   
function  of DOT/PF  applied across  the state.  Commissioner                                                                   
Luiken agreed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  highlighted  slide  15,  "What  did  we                                                                   
Accomplish in 2014?"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Operated and maintained safe and reliable roads,                                                                           
     airports, ferries and facilities                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Operational efficiencies                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         • Use recapped tires Bethel pilot foreman                                                                              
          • Closed gift shops Everyday lean innovations                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Organizational efficiencies                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          • Information Systems and Services Division                                                                           
          • Regional boundary change = Southcoast Region                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman wondered how Alaska  compared on the national                                                                   
level  to deaths  and accidents  on  the roads.  Commissioner                                                                   
Luiken replied that  there was a recent downturn  in Alaska's                                                                   
fatal  crashes  and major  accidents.  He agreed  to  provide                                                                   
further information.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:44:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY SIROKY,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                                                                   
furthered  that  there  was  a   fatality  measurement  as  a                                                                   
performance   measure.  She   shared  that   the  number   of                                                                   
fatalities  in  the  state  was low  compared  to  the  other                                                                   
states, but she  did not have the per capita  comparison. She                                                                   
agreed to provide that information.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  remarked that some roads were  designated as                                                                   
"highway safety  zones", because  of the number  of accidents                                                                   
and  traffic  in that  location.  He  felt that  those  zones                                                                   
should  be  on the  top  of  the list  for  improvements  and                                                                   
expansion.  Ms.  Siroky  agreed,  and  furthered  that  those                                                                   
locations also had increased traffic fines.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken shared that  there were some  statistics                                                                   
at  the end  of the  presentation  that  highlighted some  of                                                                   
those concerns.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara shared that  at one time there were signs                                                                   
that encouraged drivers  to move out of the way  if they were                                                                   
delaying five or more vehicles.  He felt that there should be                                                                   
more signs like that from Talkeetna  to Sterling. He remarked                                                                   
that there  were some  accidents during  the summer,  because                                                                   
the cars  were attempting to pass  up to eight cars  at once.                                                                   
He  wanted further  examination  of the  usefulness of  those                                                                   
signs. Commissioner Luiken agreed,  and explained that it was                                                                   
a dual  effort between  DOT/PF and  the Department  of Public                                                                   
Safety (DPS)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  remarked   that  DOT/PF  received                                                                   
federal  safety money,  and  the department  could  determine                                                                   
where the  money should  be spent,  without public  input. He                                                                   
shared that the  nearest intersection to his  house was about                                                                   
1.5 miles  from his  home. He  shared that  DOT/PF redid  the                                                                   
intersection, and made it worse  than the original. He shared                                                                   
that  the  intersection  saw the  worst  accident  in  thirty                                                                   
years.  He  shared  that  many   of  the  accidents  at  that                                                                   
intersection  did not get  reported, because the  individuals                                                                   
personally deal  with the accidents. He queried  the failsafe                                                                   
efforts.  He wondered  how an individual  could reach  DOT/PF                                                                   
with  suggestions. Commissioner  Luiken  replied that  safety                                                                   
enhancements are  incorporated based on data.  Further, other                                                                   
safety  features would  be engineered  into  the facility  or                                                                   
road. He agreed  to look into the specific  intersection, and                                                                   
provide more information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg remarked  that  his community  did                                                                   
not want the installed rumble chips.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:50:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Neuman   asked   that   questions   for   specific                                                                   
intersections and roads to the end of the presentation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson   shared  that  the  northern   region  of                                                                   
Fairbanks used  a new form of  liquid to melt the ice  on the                                                                   
road.  He  stated that  the  liquid  froze, and  the  borough                                                                   
noticed some corrosion  because of the chemical.  He wondered                                                                   
why  the  change  occurred.  Commissioner  Luiken  agreed  to                                                                   
provide that information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken displayed  slide 16, "DOT/PF New Regional                                                                   
Boundaries;  Northern, Central,  Southcoast." He stated  that                                                                   
the   department   had   recently   adjusted   the   regional                                                                   
boundaries,  because  there was  growth  in  the central  and                                                                   
northern  regions. The  boundary  adjustments  were meant  to                                                                   
balance the workload of the department.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  shared that the reorganizational  plan                                                                   
was  not  well-received  in  southwest   Alaska,  because  it                                                                   
required a longer distance.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  queried the reason  and expectations  of the                                                                   
boundary  changes.   Commissioner  Luiken  replied   that  he                                                                   
expected  more   work  for  southeast  Alaska,   because  the                                                                   
population was shrinking in that  part of the state. He would                                                                   
be held accountable,  if there was a difficulty  in providing                                                                   
services as a result of the change.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman saw  an advantage  to the  change being  the                                                                   
incorporated ferry system.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  felt  that there  were  naturally                                                                   
places that could line up to the  borough boundaries, like on                                                                   
the Parks  Highway. He  wondered why  the new boundaries  did                                                                   
not line up  with communities. Commissioner Luiken  agreed to                                                                   
provide that information                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  highlighted  slide  17, "Where  are  We                                                                   
Headed?"                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Organizing to meet budget challenges                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Consolidations and efficiencies                                                                                       
          Minimize service level impact                                                                                         
          Institute sustainable changes                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Continue    to    enhance   legislative    and    public                                                                   
     communications                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Exploring revenue generating opportunities                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Neuman    queried    the    revenue    generating                                                                   
opportunities.   Commissioner  Luiken   responded  that   the                                                                   
department already had a 4.5 percent  increase for the marine                                                                   
highway system.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken addressed  slide 18, "FY2016 Proposed Fee                                                                   
Increases":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AMHS Fare Increase                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          • 4.5 percent = $1.8M                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Deadhorse Landing Fees                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          • $285.0 in FY2016                                                                                                    
          • $570.0 in FY2017                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Whittier Tunnel Fare increase 10 percent                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  remarked that  Deadhorse landing  fees would                                                                   
be considered  part of the operating  costs, and would  be 35                                                                   
percent  of  their  tax  deductions.   He  wondered  if  that                                                                   
deduction  was considered in  the presentation.  Commissioner                                                                   
Luiken responded that the department  had not figured it into                                                                   
the calculations.  He  stated that, by  federal mandate,  any                                                                   
money that was generated at an  airport must be reinvested in                                                                   
that facility.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara remarked  that  the  Deadhorse road  was                                                                   
built  to  help facilitate  the  oil  and gas  companies.  He                                                                   
wondered if  the state  paid for all  of the maintenance  and                                                                   
upgrades to that road. He also  queried the user fee, and the                                                                   
difference between the user fee  and the cost to maintain and                                                                   
upgrade  that road.  Commissioner Luiken  did not  understand                                                                   
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara clarified  that  he would  like to  know                                                                   
about the  haul road. Commissioner  Luiken replied  that road                                                                   
was part of the National Highway  System, so it qualified for                                                                   
federal funding like many other roads in the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara declared  that federal  funding did  not                                                                   
cover the entire  cost of the road. He wondered  what portion                                                                   
was state  funding, and if  there was any state  compensation                                                                   
through  user fees.  Ms. Siroky  replied that  there were  no                                                                   
user fees  on the  entire road. She  explained that  the only                                                                   
road in the state with user fees  was the Klondike Highway to                                                                   
Whitehorse on ore hauling on that road.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara queried the  annual cost to the state for                                                                   
the haul  road. Commissioner  Luiken  agreed to provide  that                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  wondered if the marine  highway fare                                                                   
increase was 4.5 percent for the  entire system. Commissioner                                                                   
Luiken  replied  that  it  was  mostly  a  4.5  percent,  but                                                                   
excluded  the  top  20  percent  of  the  system  fares.  The                                                                   
increase brought  the other fares closer to  the higher rate.                                                                   
He  furthered  that he  would  address  the ideas  about  the                                                                   
tariff study.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  asked  how  a  bar  on  the  marine                                                                   
highway could lose money. Ms.  Siroky replied that bartenders                                                                   
were paid  a greater  salary than  a standard bartender.  The                                                                   
beverage prices had never been  increased to cover that cost.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Neuman   queried  the   anticipated   savings   by                                                                   
eliminating the  bars on the  ferry. Ms. Siroky  replied that                                                                   
there would be a $700,000 savings.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz noted  that there  would be  a 39  week                                                                   
service  decrease to  the ferry  system, and  well as a  fare                                                                   
increase.  She  queried  the  impact  of  the  loss  service.                                                                   
Commissioner  Luiken replied  that  there will  be that  much                                                                   
less service to the various ports  of call across the system.                                                                   
He stated that the 39 weeks was out of the total system.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  surmised that the fares  were increased                                                                   
and the service  was reduced. Commissioner Luiken  replied in                                                                   
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  noted that  beer and  wine would  still be                                                                   
available  in the  ferry  cafeterias. He  expressed  caution,                                                                   
because the  cafeteria workers  would be required  to receive                                                                   
food and alcohol  handlers permits, which may  increase costs                                                                   
in the cafeterias.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken highlighted slide 19, "Challenges":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Balancing budget against public needs, changing                                                                            
     conditions and expectations                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    Moving Ahead for Progress 21st Century Act (MAP-21)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Growing population in South Central                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  wondered if "South Central"  referred to the                                                                   
Mat-Su.   Commissioner  Luiken replied  that "South  Central"                                                                   
referred to Anchorage and Mat-Su.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken continued to discuss slide 19:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Oversight                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          • Environmental                                                                                                       
          • Processes                                                                                                           
          • Financial                                                                                                           
          • Reporting requirements                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:05:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  wondered if there would be  an increase to                                                                   
the department.  Ms. Siroky replied  that the  department had                                                                   
an  increment request  for receipts  for  slightly over  $1.2                                                                   
million. She explained that there  were four positions in the                                                                   
management  plan from  the Office  of  Management and  Budget                                                                   
(OMB)  that  would  also  fund   two  new  attorneys  in  the                                                                   
Department  of  Law. She  stressed  that  there would  be  an                                                                   
increase to the budget, but the  GF would not see any impact.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  furthered that the amount  of time saved                                                                   
would allow the department to  address projects at an earlier                                                                   
date, which would provide cost savings.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Munoz   queried    the   status    of   the                                                                   
environmental   work   on   the    Juneau   Access   Project.                                                                   
Commissioner  Luiken agreed  to provide  that information  by                                                                   
the end of the current week.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz wondered  if the  was a cost  analysis,                                                                   
if  the   environmental  work   on  Juneau  Access   were  to                                                                   
discontinue. Commissioner Luiken  replied that there would be                                                                   
a  possible  repayment  to  the  federal  government  of  $27                                                                   
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Munoz  wondered  how   much  of   the  ferry                                                                   
reduction service was targeted  at the Lynn Canal. Ms. Siroky                                                                   
replied  that the reductions  were spread  across the  entire                                                                   
state. She agreed to provide further information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Siroky addressed  slide 20,  "Operating  Budget by  Core                                                                   
Services;  FY2015 Management  Plan  to FY2016  Adjusted  Base                                                                   
Comparison." She stated that the  salary and health increases                                                                   
were reflected in the slide. She  noted a small reduction for                                                                   
a one-time increment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  wondered  if  the  slide  referred  to  the                                                                   
current  budget   request.  Ms.   Siroky  responded   in  the                                                                   
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  noted  that  there  would  not  be  a                                                                   
reduction in  DOT/PF, but rather  an increase of  $4 million.                                                                   
Ms. Siroky  replied that  the slide was  a comparison  of the                                                                   
management plan to the adjusted base.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Siroky discussed  slide 21,  "Operating  Budget by  Core                                                                   
Services FY2016  Adjusted Base to FY2016  Governor's Endorsed                                                                   
Budget Request Comparison." She  pointed out the increased GF                                                                   
budget requests. The slide displayed  the collected funds for                                                                   
highway safety corridors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky  highlighted slide  22, "FY2016 Governor  Endorsed                                                                   
Operating  Budget Changes."  She  noted  some positions  that                                                                   
would be eliminated,  as well as some vehicles  that would be                                                                   
incorporated into a vehicle pool.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky discussed slide 23, "Reductions":                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Administration and Support RDU                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          • Positions (3 PFT, 2 PPT), travel, supplies,                                                                         
          services, use vehicle pools                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Highways and Aviation - maintenance and operations                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          • 3 PFT positions Bethel airport- reduce                                                                              
          operations to 5am to 10pm                                                                                             
          • Winter maintenance - reduce 2 PFT positions,                                                                        
          overtime, commodities                                                                                                 
          • Will use service levels to set maintenance                                                                          
          priorities                                                                                                            
          • Use federal preservation funding when allowable                                                                     
          to do routine maintenance                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Design and Construction RDU                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          • Positions (1 PFT, 1 PPT, 4 NP) travel, training,                                                                    
          services                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          • Eliminate 39 weeks of service                                                                                       
          • Bars                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:14:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  looked at slide  21, and noted  the less                                                                   
than 1  percent change  between the FY  16 adjusted  base and                                                                   
the  new  endorsed  budget.  He  wondered  why  this  was  an                                                                   
insignificant  reduction. Ms. Siroky  replied that  there was                                                                   
an $11  million GF reduction,  and the increases  that offset                                                                   
the $11  million was due  to the International  Airports that                                                                   
brought  important  programs that  would  save  money in  the                                                                   
long-term.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky  continued to  discuss slide  23. She pointed  out                                                                   
that the maintenance and operations  funding for the highways                                                                   
and  aviation  had not  seen  an  increase for  three  fiscal                                                                   
years.  There  was  an increase  of  approximately  290  lane                                                                   
miles, but the costs did not increase.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler   queried  the   meaning  of   "weeks  of                                                                   
service." Ms. Siroky  replied that it was the  total weeks of                                                                   
service. There were originally 440 weeks of service.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler remarked that  there were only 52 weeks in                                                                   
a year, so he wanted further explanation.  Ms. Siroky replied                                                                   
that  it  was the  total  number  of  weeks that  boats  were                                                                   
operating.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky  looked at slide  24, "FY2016 Governor's  Endorsed                                                                   
Budget" and  slide 25, "FY2016 Governor's  Endorsed Operating                                                                   
Budget Funding Sources."  She stated that there  were 14 fund                                                                   
sources.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Siroky   addressed  slide   26,  "FY2016  General   Fund                                                                   
Governor's  Endorsed Operating  Budget  by Allocations."  The                                                                   
slide  compared  the  funding  between  the  major  operating                                                                   
allocations with the marine highway system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky  looked at  slide 27,  "Appropriations within  the                                                                   
Department  of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities"  and                                                                   
slide   28,   "Appropriations   within  the   Department   of                                                                   
Transportation   and    Public   Facilities."    The   slides                                                                   
represented what would occur with GF over time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman asked  for a definition of "RDU."  Ms. Siroky                                                                   
responded that "RDU" meant results delivery unit.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky addressed slide 29,  "Department of Transportation                                                                   
and Public Facilities Share of Total Agency Operations":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The department's GF budget grew by $65.2 million                                                                           
     between FY07 and the FY16 Governor's 1/22 GF Request                                                                       
     an average annual growth rate of 2.4 percent.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The department's total FY16 Governor's 1/22 GF budget                                                                      
     request equals $1,018 per resident worker                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky highlighted slide 30,  "FY2016 Governor's Endorsed                                                                   
Capital  Budget."  She noted  that  the current  request  was                                                                   
smaller than  the few  years prior.  She remarked that  there                                                                   
was a  GF match  and money  for municipal  grants. There  was                                                                   
$137  million   in  federal  and  other  fund   sources,  and                                                                   
approximately  $891 million for  surface transportation.  She                                                                   
also  stated   that  there  was   $8  million   for  deferred                                                                   
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky  discussed slide 31,  "Measures and  Results." She                                                                   
stated that  the department would provide  better performance                                                                   
measures  the  following  year. The  graphs  address  traffic                                                                   
fatalities,  and  she noted  that  FY  13 showed  a  positive                                                                   
result.  She shared  that  FY  14 was  not  a good  year  for                                                                   
traffic fatalities. She remarked  that in 2004, there was 106                                                                   
fatalities, so  the department  had shown a positive  outcome                                                                   
over  time. She  added  that the  number  of alcohol  related                                                                   
fatalities had also reduced. She  looked at the graph for the                                                                   
National Highway  System miles,  which referred to  the roads                                                                   
that met  the National Highway  System miles statistics.  She                                                                   
stated that the department would  never reach 100 percent for                                                                   
meeting the national standards.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siroky addressed slide 32,  "DOT/PF Information Sources",                                                                   
which displayed how to gain more information on DOT/PF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson wondered  how much GF would be required                                                                   
to finish the two new weigh stations.  She added that she did                                                                   
not have a problem if the stations  were never completed. She                                                                   
remarked that  there was no  recommendation for  employees to                                                                   
operate those weigh stations.  She remarked that both Fox and                                                                   
Esther had  weigh stations that  were not fully  operational.                                                                   
Ms. Siroky agreed to provide further information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  wondered why  the  agency had  3180                                                                   
full-time   employees,  and  there   were  only   recommended                                                                   
personnel  cuts. Ms.  Siroky replied  that  DOT/PF still  had                                                                   
large capital  projects that would  be moving  through design                                                                   
and construction.  She stressed  that it took  the department                                                                   
two  to ten  years  to  bring  capital projects  through  the                                                                   
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki  remarked   that  there   were  290                                                                   
additional  line miles,  but the  budget remained  relatively                                                                   
flat. He felt that there would  be additional maintenance and                                                                   
operations later. He queried the  wisdom of adding roads that                                                                   
could potentially remain unfunded.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:26:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara remarked that  the vulnerable individuals                                                                   
like children  and seniors  should receive  the least  budget                                                                   
reductions.  He wondered what  a 2  percent budget  cut would                                                                   
look  like,  without  cutting   safety.  Commissioner  Luiken                                                                   
agreed to provide that information.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman stressed  that adding  the lane miles  makes                                                                   
the  roads  safer.  Commissioner   Luiken  agreed  with  that                                                                   
summation. He  furthered that DOT/PF was attempting  the most                                                                   
effective efficiency.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  wondered if there was  a cost analysis                                                                   
for each  proposed road  expansion. Ms.  Siroky replied  that                                                                   
there were some project descriptions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  felt that capital  projects would  allow for                                                                   
job opportunities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler queried the  break out of the costs to the                                                                   
department  per  vehicle  mile  traveled  versus  the  marine                                                                   
highway. Ms. Siroky agreed to provide that information.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  stated that Co-Chair Thompson  was in charge                                                                   
of the DOT/PF budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:33:34 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON   TAYLOR,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF   CORRECTIONS,                                                                   
introduced himself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REMOND   HENDERSON,   DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                   
CORRECTIONS, introduced himself.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor displayed  the PowerPoint  presentation,                                                                   
"Department of Corrections Overview" (copy on file).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Taylor highlighted slide 1, "Mission":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  Department   of  Corrections  enhances  the                                                                   
     safety   of  our   communities.     We  provide   secure                                                                   
     confinement,  reformative  programs,  and a  process  of                                                                   
     supervised community reintegration.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor  highlighted  slide  2,  "Organizational                                                                   
Structure,"   which   outlined    the   full   organizational                                                                   
structure of the department.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Taylor   addressed   slide   3,   "Corrections                                                                   
Comparison FY2015  Management Plan to FY2016  Adjusted Base."                                                                   
He  shared  that  the Department  of  Corrections  (DOC)  was                                                                   
currently waiting  to fill  the vacant Population  Management                                                                   
deputy   commissioner,   and   the   institutional   director                                                                   
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  displayed slide  4,  "Corrections  Comparison                                                                   
FY2016  Adjusted  Base  to FY2016  Governor's  Request."  The                                                                   
slide outlined the  changes from the 2015 management  plan to                                                                   
the  2016 adjusted  base. That  change referred  to the  2016                                                                   
salary adjustments,  the health  insurance, and working  rate                                                                   
reductions which totaled approximately $2.1 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson discussed  slide 5, "FY2016 Summary  of Changes                                                                   
(continued)."  The page  showed the  FY 16  adjusted base  to                                                                   
the  governor's   request.  He  remarked  that   the  overall                                                                   
reduction  was $17.895 million  to the  FY 16 adjusted  base,                                                                   
which  was  a   5.3  percent  reduction.  He   explained  the                                                                   
reductions ($thousands):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Salary and Health Insurance adjustments: $2,146.7                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Salary adjustments: $2,571.5                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Health insurance and working reserve: ($424.8)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     MH Trust, Reverse One Time Items: ($475.8)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Mental Health Trust Recommendations: $506.9                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Mental Health Staff Training: $25.0                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          Assess, Plan, Identify, and Coordinate re-entry                                                                       
          project: $260.0                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Rural Re-entry and fetal alcohol syndrome                                                                             
          education pilot program: $120.0                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Research Analyst: $101.9                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  highlighted  slide   6,  "FY2016  Summary  of                                                                   
Changes (continued) ($thousands)":                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Reduce Current Level of Services: ($17,236.6)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Fund change of PFD Criminal Funds from General                                                                        
          Funds: ($9,534.5) UGF                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Fund Change of PFD Criminal Funds from General                                                                        
          Funds: 9,534.5 DGF                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman asked  for further explanation  of the  fund                                                                   
changes  in  the  permanent  fund   division.  Mr.  Henderson                                                                   
replied that  there was a  letter from Department  of Revenue                                                                   
(DOR) that  identified the available  funds in  the permanent                                                                   
fund  criminal funds.  He  explained that  DOC  did not  have                                                                   
authority  to receive the  amount of  funds available.  There                                                                   
was  $9.5  million available  in  the  fund,  so DOC  took  a                                                                   
reduction on GF.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  wondered  why  DOC did  not  have  previous                                                                   
authority.  Mr.  Henderson  replied  that  DOC  had  previous                                                                   
authority, but did  not have authority to receive  all of the                                                                   
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  wondered if the funds were  used to fund                                                                   
other  items,  or if  the  money  remained in  the  permanent                                                                   
fund. Mr. Henderson  replied that he believed  that the funds                                                                   
did not go toward anything else in the meantime.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  wondered where  the criminal funds  would be                                                                   
used. Mr. Henderson  replied that the funds would  be used to                                                                   
fund the operations of the institutions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  queried the previous  use of the  funds. Mr.                                                                   
Henderson replied  that they were used for  the same purpose,                                                                   
but there were more funds available.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson continued to discuss slide 6:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Unallocated Reduction: ($3,925.0) UGF                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Reduction of GF in anticipation of Medicaid Expansion:                                                                     
     ($4,108.2) UGF                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Eliminate Regional and Community Jail contracts:                                                                           
     ($9,203.4) UGF                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Phase out of minimum housing at PCC/transition to                                                                          
     supervised release: ($1,514.8) UGF                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Phase out of minimum housing at PCC/transition to                                                                          
     supervised release $1,514.8 UGF                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:42:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman asked  how DOC  had a  zero vacancy  factor.                                                                   
Mr.  Henderson  replied  that   there  was  a  budgeted  zero                                                                   
vacancy factor in institutions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor furthered that  the zero vacancy  factor                                                                   
also covered  some of the  overtime hours that  were utilized                                                                   
in DOC.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  appreciated  the work  to  rehabilitate                                                                   
individuals, but  felt that the  zero vacancy factor  did not                                                                   
reflect  a significant  cut in  state spending.  Commissioner                                                                   
Taylor replied  that it  would impact  the amount of  dollars                                                                   
available for overtime.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  felt  that   Representative  Edgmon  should                                                                   
examine that issue in subcommittee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson explained  that there would be a  $3 million GF                                                                   
reduction in  the DOC budget.  He continued to  discuss slide                                                                   
6.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  wanted more information about  the impact of                                                                   
anticipated  Medicaid  expansion.  Mr.  Henderson  agreed  to                                                                   
provide that information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  wondered   how  money  was  saved  by                                                                   
reducing 20 unoccupied  beds. Mr. Henderson replied  that the                                                                   
money was paid for the beds under a contractual agreement.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked if the beds were in  a jail or a                                                                   
halfway house.  Mr. Henderson replied  that the beds  were in                                                                   
the  jails. He  furthered  that it  was a  part  of the  $3.9                                                                   
million unallocated reductions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson   wondered  how  DOC  would   pay  for                                                                   
something  that   no  person  would  occupy.   Mr.  Henderson                                                                   
responded that  the funding would  be used for  the community                                                                   
regional centers.  He stated that there was a  contract for a                                                                   
fixed number of beds within the contract.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor stated  that the reduction  was  for the                                                                   
Northstar Center in Fairbanks.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson understood  that  they were  referring                                                                   
to the halfway house. Commissioner Taylor agreed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  stated that  she  understood why  the                                                                   
beds were  not utilized.  Commissioner Taylor explained  that                                                                   
the  $3.9   million  reduction   was  drafted  before   other                                                                   
reductions  were considered.  The beds  were removed as  part                                                                   
of what was proposed prior to December 13.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson  felt that  the  center may  increase  the                                                                   
cost  of  beds.  Commissioner  Taylor  replied  that  the  20                                                                   
percent adjustment  was based on  a reflection of  the actual                                                                   
cost of the beds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  remarked that  the slide was  confusing, and                                                                   
felt that he  did not understand how the final  reduction was                                                                   
determined.  Commissioner Taylor  agreed  to provide  further                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor addressed  slide  7,  "Fiscal Year  2016                                                                   
Operating Budget  Request by Core Service." The  slide showed                                                                   
secure  confinement,  reformative  programs,  and  supervised                                                                   
release programs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor looked  at  slide 8,  "Fiscal Year  2016                                                                   
Operating Budget  Request by Fund  Source." The  slide showed                                                                   
the  total amount  by  fund source.  He  remarked that  there                                                                   
were very little federal funds requested.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor addressed  slide  9,  "Fiscal Year  2016                                                                   
Operating  Budget Request  by  Line Item."  The slide  looked                                                                   
specifically at  the budget request  line items.  He remarked                                                                   
that the  majority of the  expenditures would go  to personal                                                                   
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Taylor  highlighted slide 10, "Fiscal  Year 2016                                                                   
Operating Position  Allocations." He  stated that  there were                                                                   
1871  total positions,  and  the  majority of  the  positions                                                                   
were correctional  officers, followed by  probation officers,                                                                   
and  the  administrative   staff  for  the   central  office;                                                                   
institutions; probations and parole; and the parole board.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:53:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor   looked  at  slide   11,  "Correctional                                                                   
Facilities and  Regional and Community Jails  Locations." the                                                                   
slide was  a depiction of  the locations of the  correctional                                                                   
facilities and regional jails in the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Taylor  addressed slide  12, "Cost of  Care." He                                                                   
remarked  that the  majority  of the  costs  were inside  the                                                                   
institutions.  He noted  that  health care  was the  greatest                                                                   
cost driver, followed by statewide direct costs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman remarked  that the average  cost per  inmate                                                                   
was approximately  $158,000 per  year. He wondered  the exact                                                                   
cost per day.  Commissioner Taylor replied with  slide 12. He                                                                   
looked at  the total cost  for FY 13,  which was  $153.67 per                                                                   
inmate per day.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  remarked  that  only  2.9  percent  of  the                                                                   
department's budget  was used for drug and  alcohol programs.                                                                   
He stressed  that  over 80 percent  of the  inmates had  drug                                                                   
and  alcohol  programs. He  wondered  why  there was  such  a                                                                   
small   amount   of   money    toward   recidivism   efforts.                                                                   
Commissioner  Taylor replied there  was treatment  inside the                                                                   
institution.  He understood  that  the costs  of  corrections                                                                   
was  greater than  the  cost to  rehabilitate.  He felt  that                                                                   
there  was a  shift  in the  current budget  toward  reducing                                                                   
recidivism.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  stressed  that  the  cost  to  rehabilitate                                                                   
would  be much less  than the  cost of  corrections. He  felt                                                                   
that  DOC  had   showed  positive  efforts   to  rehabilitate                                                                   
individuals.  Commissioner  Taylor  stressed  that,  although                                                                   
the  individuals were  receiving treatment,  they were  still                                                                   
utilizing the bed  space. There would still  be institutional                                                                   
costs with rehabilitation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  remarked  that the  62  percent  recidivism                                                                   
rate must be reduced.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  wondered  why the  out-of-state  cost                                                                   
increased  from  $66  to  $103,  while  it  looked  like  the                                                                   
instate  institution  costs  saw   a  decrease.  Commissioner                                                                   
Taylor   replied   that   the   increase   for   out-of-state                                                                   
incarceration  was  for  the first  quarter  of  the  current                                                                   
fiscal year.  The rate  was negotiated at  a higher  rate for                                                                   
those three months.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson wondered if  the rate was  still $103.                                                                   
Commissioner Taylor responded in the negative.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson   surmised   that  the   $103   would                                                                   
decrease,  but the inmates  would also  return to Alaska,  so                                                                   
the   cost  to   those  inmates   would  possibly   increase.                                                                   
Commissioner  Taylor  responded   that  facility  costs  were                                                                   
fixed costs. Therefore,  if more people filled  the beds, the                                                                   
average daily cost per inmate would decrease.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson   asserted  that  the   $142  per  day                                                                   
institutional  cost may  decrease  slightly, but  it may  not                                                                   
get as  low as $103 per  day. Commissioner Taylor  replied in                                                                   
the affirmative.  The costs  would still  remain around  $142                                                                   
per day.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:00:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor  highlighted  slide  14,  "Core  Service                                                                   
Secure Confinement":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     12  In-State Correctional  Facilities  with maximum  bed                                                                   
     capacity of 5,224 beds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          The average daily inmate population held within                                                                       
          these facilities for FY2014 was 5,038                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     15 contracts  with local Regional and Community  Jails -                                                                   
     157 beds                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          The average daily inmate population held within                                                                       
          these local jails for FY2014 was 80                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Taylor  looked at slide 15,  "Secure Confinement                                                                   
Performance   Measure   Results."    He   stated   that   the                                                                   
performance  measures  were conducted  on  each  of the  core                                                                   
services. He  stated that there  were three escapes  over the                                                                   
past seven  years. He noted that,  since 2012, there  were no                                                                   
convictions for escape.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  highlighted  slide  16,  "Secure  Confinement                                                                   
Performance Review Findings":                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     From  a system-wide  standpoint, the  DOC is  moderately                                                                   
     effective   in  meeting   its  objective  of   providing                                                                   
     effective secure confinement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Secure  confinement   operations  are  provided   in  an                                                                   
     efficient manner.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  relatively  high  costs   incurred  are  largely  a                                                                   
     function   of   the  unique   characteristics   of   the                                                                   
     correctional system  and the cost of  providing services                                                                   
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Efficiencies   have  been  maximized   in  institutional                                                                   
     staffing to  the point that additional  reductions could                                                                   
     jeopardize achievement of the program's mission.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor   discussed  slide  17,   "Core  Service                                                                   
Supervised Release":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     13 Regional Adult Probation Offices                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          The average daily probationer/parolee population                                                                      
          during FY2014 was 6,171                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     8 Community Residential Centers - 711 beds, plus (108                                                                      
     per diem beds)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          The average daily population for these beds                                                                           
          during FY2014 was 761                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Electronic Monitoring operated in 6 communities with                                                                       
     capacity to support up to 386 offenders, increasing to                                                                     
     475 in FY2015                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          The average daily population for electronic                                                                           
          monitoring during FY2014 was 386                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Taylor  addressed slide 18,  "Supervised Release                                                                   
Performance  Measure  Results."  The slide  showed  that  the                                                                   
recidivism  rate was  currently 63.19  percent. He  announced                                                                   
that DOC wanted to continue to lower the recidivism rate.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Taylor  highlighted   slide  19,   "Supervised                                                                   
Release  Performance Measure  Results."  He  stated that  the                                                                   
number  of  probationers  and  parolees  were  continuing  to                                                                   
successfully  satisfy   their  court-ordered   conditions  of                                                                   
release,   to  ensure   their   continued   success  in   the                                                                   
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  looked  at  slide   20,  "Supervised  Release                                                                   
Performance Review Findings":                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     From a system-wide standpoint the DOC is moderately                                                                        
     effective in providing supervised release.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The supervised release program operates with a high                                                                        
     level of efficiency.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor  highlighted  slide  21,  "Core  Service                                                                   
Reformative Programs."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Substance Abuse Treatment Programs                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sex Offender Management Programs                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Vocational Education Programs                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Educational Programs                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Domestic Violence Programs                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Faith-based Re-entry Programs                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Mental Health Services                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Taylor   addressed  slide   22,   "Reformative                                                                   
Program   Performance   Measure   Results   Substance   Abuse                                                                   
Treatment  Programs."  The slide  depicted  in the  increased                                                                   
number  of   people  participating   in  a  substance   abuse                                                                   
treatment program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Taylor   highlighted  slide   23,  "Reformative                                                                   
Program  Performance Measure  Results."  The  page looked  at                                                                   
the  performance   measure  results  for  the   sex  offender                                                                   
management  programs.   He  shared  that  DOC   continued  to                                                                   
provide polygraph  and programming to a number  of persons on                                                                   
parole for sex offenses.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Taylor   addressed  slide   24,   "Reformative                                                                   
Program  Performance Measure  Results Educational  Programs."                                                                   
He noted  the decrease  in 2012  to 2014,  as there  were new                                                                   
standards  for general education  development (GED)  testing.                                                                   
He stated that  there was work to move from  a paper-based to                                                                   
electronic testing system.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:05:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  looked  at slide  25,  "Reformative  Programs                                                                   
Performance Review Findings":                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DOC's approach to developing reformative programming                                                                       
     is aggressive, its scope is comprehensive, and its                                                                         
     delivery is effective.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The delivery of reformative programs is highly                                                                             
     efficient.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson  stated  that  the  final  three  slides  were                                                                   
prepared  by  the  Legislative  Finance  Division  (LFD).  He                                                                   
stated that  the slides reflected  an increase in  the agency                                                                   
share  of total  state  operations, and  an  increase in  DOC                                                                   
funding.  He stated  that the  increase was  a result of  the                                                                   
new Goose Creek institution.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:07:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   wondered  what   changes  that   could  be                                                                   
expected   in  DOC.   He   had  been   exploring   recidivism                                                                   
reductions  programs. Up to  40 percent  of the inmates  that                                                                   
were in  the DOC program were  at the pre-sentence  phase. He                                                                   
felt  that  there   may  be  an  opportunity   for  voluntary                                                                   
treatment  for  pre-sentence   inmates.  Commissioner  Taylor                                                                   
replied that  there was  an attempt  to redesign the  system.                                                                   
He  stressed  that   DOC  must  improve  its   dependence  on                                                                   
electronic monitoring.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  wondered if  electronic monitoring  would be                                                                   
used at  residential centers.  Commissioner Taylor  responded                                                                   
in the affirmative.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  looked at slide  22, and wondered  if DOC                                                                   
worked  to  encourage  12-Step  programs to  operate  in  all                                                                   
facilities. Commissioner  Taylor replied in  the affirmative.                                                                   
The department  wanted to  examine an  array of programs  for                                                                   
the institutions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  queried   the  definition  of  RSAT  and                                                                   
LSSAT,  and a  general idea  of  a community-based  substance                                                                   
abuse  treatment program.  Commissioner  Taylor replied  that                                                                   
the  LSSAT  program  was the  "Life  Skills  Substance  Abuse                                                                   
Treatment"  program.   It  was  3-month   outpatient  program                                                                   
inside  the facility.  The RSAT  program  was a  "Residential                                                                   
Substance Abuse  Treatment" program,  which was a  minimum of                                                                   
6 months  in  the institution.  The community-based  programs                                                                   
were  programs   that  were  provided  for  after   care  and                                                                   
programming  in  a  number  of  communities  to  support  the                                                                   
persons getting released into probation and parole.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  wondered where the 12-Step  programs fell                                                                   
into those other  programs. Commissioner Taylor  replied that                                                                   
the 12-Step  programs were voluntary  programs, but  were not                                                                   
a cost for  substance abuse treatment programs.  He agreed to                                                                   
provide more information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  wondered  why the  Medicaid  expansion                                                                   
would only  cover $4  million of the  health care  costs. She                                                                   
wondered if  there was  a way to  increase the coverage.  Mr.                                                                   
Henderson  replied  that  the  replied the  DOC  Health  Care                                                                   
Director  could provide  a  detailed response.  He  explained                                                                   
that DOC  had pulled the  invoices of the individuals  within                                                                   
the  institutions that  were hospitalized  for  more than  24                                                                   
hours,  which totaled  approximately  $8  million. He  shared                                                                   
that the $4.1 million was a benchmark for reimbursement.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz   surmised  that  there   would  be  no                                                                   
Medicaid reimbursement  for the services provided  within the                                                                   
institution.  Mr. Henderson  replied in  the affirmative  and                                                                   
stated  that the  reimbursement would  be considered  "direct                                                                   
billing."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  shared that she had worked  to create a                                                                   
video   conferencing   opportunities   for   individuals   to                                                                   
communicate  with   families.  She  shared  that   it  was  a                                                                   
successful  program. She  remarked  that there  was a  recent                                                                   
change  in  policy to  limit  the  videoconferencing  between                                                                   
clients  and  attorneys.  She  queried  the  reason  for  the                                                                   
change in  policy. She  encouraged the  reinstatement  of the                                                                   
program.     Commissioner  Taylor  agreed  to   examine  that                                                                   
policy.  He shared  that the  change  may be  related to  the                                                                   
number of increased  hearings and requests for  telephonic or                                                                   
video-conferenced hearings.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:18:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  queried  the  flexibility  within                                                                   
the budget  to prioritize  new programs. Commissioner  Taylor                                                                   
replied that  there was  some ability  to prioritize,  but he                                                                   
stressed  that  there  was  a  focus  on  ensuring  that  the                                                                   
programming was  directly related to  the risks and  needs of                                                                   
those in custody.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  remarked that there  should not be                                                                   
a large  rise in inmates. He  wondered if the funds  would be                                                                   
shifted  to  programs  that had  direct  impact  from  prison                                                                   
population  increases. Commissioner  Taylor replied  that the                                                                   
funds  could   not  be  shifted   to  capture   the  dramatic                                                                   
increases  in   inmate  population.  The  funding   would  be                                                                   
dedicated to specific services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  asked  if  the  individuals  were                                                                   
monitored in  the programs. Commissioner Taylor  replied that                                                                   
there  was an  attempt to  develop  one recidivism  reduction                                                                   
plans.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  how  those individuals  had                                                                   
follow  up  for housing  and  employment  post-incarceration.                                                                   
Commissioner  Taylor  replied   that  the  probation  officer                                                                   
would follow  up on  the individuals  that were on  probation                                                                   
and  parole. He  furthered  that there  was  current work  to                                                                   
create reentry  centers and community  support for  those not                                                                   
on probation or parole.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   wondered  if   the   department                                                                   
tracked  the  difference  between  the  recidivism  rates  of                                                                   
those who  were on parole and  those who were not  on parole.                                                                   
Commissioner Taylor  replied that there was not  a separation                                                                   
of probation and parole.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson remarked  that queried the  definition                                                                   
of "GF PR authority."  Mr. Henderson replied that  it was the                                                                   
GF  authority   for  receipts.   There  were  fees   for  the                                                                   
electronic monitoring devices.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson wondered  if the  ankle monitors  were                                                                   
fully  utilized.  Commissioner   Taylor  responded  that  the                                                                   
department  was working  to fully utilize  the ankle  monitor                                                                   
capacity.  He  explained  that   the  request  reflected  the                                                                   
department's authority and ability to collect.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara wondered  if Alaska  was the only  state                                                                   
that  did not  allow  food stamps  for  felons.  He asked  if                                                                   
there  was  work to  allow  felons  to receive  food  stamps.                                                                   
Commissioner  Taylor   replied  that  the   Criminal  Justice                                                                   
Commission  was examining  that  issue. He  did  not know  if                                                                   
there  was any  relation between  food  stamps allowance  and                                                                   
recidivism rates.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:24:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  wondered  if  the  commission  was  100                                                                   
percent federally  funded. Commissioner  Taylor replied  that                                                                   
he did not know.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  noted  that  there was  a  challenge  in                                                                   
reducing  recidivism rates,  and wondered  if it was  because                                                                   
of  not identifying  the  right tools  or  knowing the  right                                                                   
tools  with  an inability  for  implementation.  Commissioner                                                                   
Taylor felt  that it  was a combination  of the two  notions.                                                                   
There were two  separate committees that were  working toward                                                                   
that balance.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  looked at slide 17. She  wondered what                                                                   
would happen  if there was  a possibility to  increase beyond                                                                   
475.  She   felt  that  there   should  be  an   increase  in                                                                   
opportunities   in   order   to    decrease   the   cost   of                                                                   
incarceration.  Commissioner   Taylor  replied  that  it  was                                                                   
possible to increase  the number, but there  must be staffing                                                                   
and resources to support the increase.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gattis   wondered   if   private   companies                                                                   
conducting  the monitoring.  Commissioner  Taylor replied  in                                                                   
the negative. He stated that DOC was the monitoring entity.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  shared that  he  knew a  correctional                                                                   
officer  that felt  there  were some  inefficiencies  between                                                                   
DOC  and   the  Department  of   Public  Safety   (DPS)  when                                                                   
transporting  prisoners. He wondered  if there  was a  way to                                                                   
bridge  the gap  between  the two  departments.  Commissioner                                                                   
Taylor agreed to examine that issue further.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt   wondered  if  there   were  specific                                                                   
restrictions  that  the  legislature  placed  that  prevented                                                                   
people from integrating  back into society. He  remarked that                                                                   
there were  some statutes placed  to protect the  public that                                                                   
may have caused  some burdens on those individuals  that were                                                                   
released back  into society. He  wondered if there  needed to                                                                   
make changes  to some limiting statutes.  Commissioner Taylor                                                                   
stated  that there  was  a  list of  collateral  consequences                                                                   
online, and he would be happy to provide that information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HB  72   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  73   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
3:30:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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